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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby fowler » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:09 pm

Alexk wrote:I haven't done a direct comparison, but I can't tell if it's in the signal chain or not, and the distortion levels are way lower than those from my converters, so I can't measure any difference with it in or out of circuit.

The signal path is incredibly straightforward (although it's quite a complicated unit because of the nature of a stepped resister-network attenuator).

You can only order them direct, either as a DIY kit or fully constructed and ready to go.

I use mine with my SCM 20 mk2 actives for studio monitoring.


Thanks alexk

I have got the same speakers as you. I'm on the lookout for a pre amp, I'm currently using a audiolab 8200ap so this or the phonitor 2 will sure to be a step up How much UK for a constructed unit?
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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby fowler » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:01 pm

Found the price on the website :oops: Just emailed sound sculptor with a couple of questions. thanks for the suggestion it looks a bargain for the money. the phonitor 2 looks great but the lack of inputs rule it out for me. Thanks :D
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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby Alexk » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:17 pm

Yes it's a real bargain, and the performance is excellent...

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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby Brad Lunde » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:10 am

I just ordered a set of PA65's for my church a month ago. Should be shipped to me soon. I am going to have them set up so I can take people in there for demos, let them hear what live sound can be like. I am trying to convince some Las Vegas Casinos to go ATC! [The distortion in most of these lounge/club live rigs absolutely chases people out after a short time I think]

I think I will use Joshua Judges Ruth for the test music. Hard to fool that music, lots of subtlety. Mixed by someone I worked with for quite some time, George Massenburg. That guy's mixes were all killer. Little Feat, Linda Ronstadt /Nelson Riddle- he even did that old Earth Wind and Fire break out record with Lets Groove and September. Totally pissed off the Motown crowd with a very non Motown sounding record. But I swear the sound of the record is very much responsible for its long term success.

Then Elton John, Love Song, from Tumbleweed Connection, the SACD version.....

Then for female vocals "Send it on Down" by Lee Ann Womack. Recorded Mixed and Mastered on ATC's at Soundstage in Nashville by a good buddy Chuck Ainlay. Incredible record.

Then just to round things out
IBEYI- Oya. A very different sounding record that has nice low end in it and very raw.

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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby MattSPL » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:31 pm

That will be a lovely church system Brad.
Churches here wouldn't even get Bose :lol:
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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby studioman » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:10 am

I remember when I was a guitar toting teenager, my church borrowed my Watkins Dominator amp which did ok in the small hall for the Nativity, and that Dom cost me £28 I think, whereas they are worth a couple of thousands to collectors now! (sorry, SLIGHTLY off topic!) :-)
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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby studioman » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:04 pm

Interesting to see that in the 2015 price list the PA65A is still mentioned...

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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby MattSPL » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:00 pm

Yeah I think it's still available on special order
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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby studioman » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:57 pm

And there's a version of the ATC PA65 in the 2015 ATC price list called the PA65A...
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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby Brad Lunde » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:47 am

studioman wrote:I remember when I was a guitar toting teenager, my church borrowed my Watkins Dominator amp which did ok in the small hall for the Nativity, and that Dom cost me £28 I think, whereas they are worth a couple of thousands to collectors now! (sorry, SLIGHTLY off topic!) :-)


Watkins ANYTHING are cool.

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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby MattSPL » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:28 am

studioman wrote:And there's a version of the ATC PA65 which has a letter at the end...can't quite remember but it was either an A, B or S, as in PA65S.
Sorry, can't be more specific, but at least it's not a CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRTUVWXY or Z !!!!!!


That's interesting, I wonder what that model is?
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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby studioman » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:40 pm

Found it...it's on the 2015 price list as the PA65A.
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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby MattSPL » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:06 pm

studioman wrote:Found it...it's on the 2015 price list as the PA65A.


Ah ok, makes sense then, the A is for Active.

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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby studioman » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:12 pm

Brad Lunde wrote:
studioman wrote:I remember when I was a guitar toting teenager, my church borrowed my Watkins Dominator amp which did ok in the small hall for the Nativity, and that Dom cost me £28 I think, whereas they are worth a couple of thousands to collectors now! (sorry, SLIGHTLY off topic!) :-)


Watkins ANYTHING are cool.

Brad


(off-topic again!!!)
Actually, I distinctly remember that the Watkins Dominator had some good tone but it hissed, hummed, shook, rattled and rolled all the time. And the tone really wasn't THAT good. Same for my Sound City 120 amp. We also had a WEM PA system and a Watkins Echo unit. I think Pink Floyd would still be using the same if they sounded that good. But they really didn't. No comparison with big Hiwatt and Marshall guitar amps, Ampeg bass gear and of course nowadays I use ATC speakers for 'High Fidelity'. Those two words say it all.
My present collection of guitar amps are ALL superior in every way to the Watkins Dominator. Good valve Marshalls, Orange and Hiwatts etc, yes, of course! But I have learned a lot since those days and there is no way I would buy a Dominator now except as a museum piece. Same as the SME3012 arm which I bought for £28 brand new in a sale in about 1969, and sold a few years ago. I'd rather use my Linn and Origin Live arms thank you. I only remember them all fondly because they were all I had at the time, and they 'go with' the memories of being 15.
Nostalgia can play funny tricks on you.
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Re: ATC PA-65

Postby Brad Lunde » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:09 am

Much of what you say is true when you think about the quantity of old gear that was great vs poor. MXR pedals: sounded cool, their phaser was noisy as could be. Vox amps, not that great but they had a sound that was unique. I had a 60's Fender bassman and it wasn't that great. I sold it for $75 and now I see them for 2 or 3K. The Acoustic bass amps smoked all that stuff for quality. But some old gear is cherished for the tone it can give that cannot be replaced: a Neumann U47 tube mic, a Telefunken Vintage 251, an EMT Reverb, a Studer tape machine. Its amazing how sought after some old 1940s and 50s microphones are. Same with guitars.
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Its not all the different from Hi Fi. Some old Audio Research stuff sounds great even today, old Macintosh, Dynaco, etc. But some of it, especially transducers (speakers and tonearms/cartridges) aren't even close.

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Brad Lunde wrote:
studio man wrote:I remember when I was a guitar toting teenager, my church borrowed my Watkins Dominator amp which did ok in the small hall for the Nativity, and that Dom cost me £28 I think, whereas they are worth a couple of thousands to collectors now! (sorry, SLIGHTLY off topic!) :-)


Watkins ANYTHING are cool.

Brad


(off-topic again!!!)
Actually, I distinctly remember that the Watkins Dominator had some good tone but it hissed, hummed, shook, rattled and rolled all the time. And the tone really wasn't THAT good. Same for my Sound City 120 amp. We also had a WEM PA system and a Watkins Echo unit. I think Pink Floyd would still be using the same if they sounded that good. But they really didn't. No comparison with big Hiwatt and Marshall guitar amps, Ampeg bass gear and ATC speakers for 'High Fidelity'. Those two words say it all.
My present collection of guitar amps are ALL superior in every way to the Watkins Dominator. Good valve Marshalls, Orange and Hiwatts etc, yes, of course! But I have learned a lot since those days and there is no way I would buy a Dominator now except as a museum piece. Same as the SME3012 arm which I bought for £28 brand new in a sale in about 1969, and sold a few years ago. I'd rather use my Linn and Origin Live arms thank you. I only remember them all fondly because they were all I had at the time, and they 'go with' the memories of being 15.
Nostalgia can play funny tricks on you.
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