35 w tube amp enough for SCM19?

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35 w tube amp enough for SCM19?

Postby Simna » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:44 pm

Hej

I have tried SCM19 with my Musical Fidelity M6i but I thought the combination sounded somewhat dull and uninspering. Maybe it can have something to do with the speakers has only been played on about 10-15 hours, but I think it's the M6i that is the problem.

So I have an old tube amp, Tube Technology Unisis Signature, 2x35w, but will it drive these speakers well? I have a rather small room, about 17 square meters and I'm living in an apartment, so I can't play at high volumes anyway.
(I didn't have the tube amp at home when I tested the SCM19 with my MF M6i, but is it worth the trouble to borrow the SCM19 again to test them with the tube amp?)

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Re: 35 w tube amp enough for SCM19?

Postby Simna » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:41 pm

Now I've made a test and I can inform you that a 35w tub amp is not enough for SCM19.

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Re: 35 w tube amp enough for SCM19?

Postby MattSPL » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:15 pm

Hi Simna

So are you going with a larger tube amp or solid state?
I've heard people using ATC's before with low power amps, but I guess it depends what your after. I've always been one for more is better when it comes to watts and driver size.

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Re: 35 w tube amp enough for SCM19?

Postby Simna » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:21 pm

Hej Matt

If I buy the SCM19 speakers I will either use my MF M6i or buy a tube preamp and a solid state power amp, but that's a question of money ;)
I wrote "if I buy" because the pair I tried out has to be "burned in" first. I had to turn up the volume a little too much to "bloom" in my room. I'm hoping that when the speakers will loosen up, they also will "bloom" at a lower volume.

Sure I get enough volume from the 35w tube amp, but the music doesn't "bloom" and lacks punsch and air and feels a little muddy and flat. But then again, my tube amp has all new tubes and the sound will change, but of course I will not get more power.

Excuse my English. Hope you understand what I mean.

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Re: 35 w tube amp enough for SCM19?

Postby MattSPL » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:40 pm

Hi Simna

Let me know how the scm19's are once they are burned in.
I had scm19 v1's. They took about 200hrs and some loud playing before they opened up.

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Re: 35 w tube amp enough for SCM19?

Postby Bulldog » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:05 am

A tube amp and a solid state power amp sounds like a good option with the SCM19s. Also consider a high powered integrated amp if you want to save some $$$.

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Re: 35 w tube amp enough for SCM19?

Postby Simna » Fri May 12, 2017 6:34 pm

@MattSPL

Hej

I should have written you a long time ago...

The SCM19v2 and my old tubeamp has got the time they needed to burn in and I'm very pleased. Sure, it would't be s bad thing if the speakers were a little more sensitive or the amp a little more powerfull, but then again it wouldn't be EL84 tubes.

I've checked out five ss amplifiers and even a tube amp (2x50w with K120 tubes) but after a lot of listening I settled for my old 2x35w with EL84 tubes. I cant't play very loud, but loud enough for me.

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Re: 35 w tube amp enough for SCM19?

Postby MattSPL » Fri May 12, 2017 10:03 pm

Simna wrote:@MattSPL

Hej

I should have written you a long time ago...

The SCM19v2 and my old tubeamp has got the time they needed to burn in and I'm very pleased. Sure, it would't be s bad thing if the speakers were a little more sensitive or the amp a little more powerfull, but then again it wouldn't be EL84 tubes.

I've checked out five ss amplifiers and even a tube amp (2x50w with K120 tubes) but after a lot of listening I settled for my old 2x35w with EL84 tubes. I cant't play very loud, but loud enough for me.


Thanks for the update, I'm glad your tube amp worked out for you.
I've never tried tube amps, only heard them at shows. One of the nicest sounds I heard was some form of tube amplification driving Lumley speakers at a show about 15 years ago.
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