The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

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The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Peter » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:56 pm

Hi,

I wonder if anyone has any experience of the the Yamaha A-3030 or A-3020 as compared to the DSP Z7.
I am wondering if there is a huge step up from the DSP Z7 to either the The A-3030 or A-3020, i.e. to say if the upgrade would be worth the money.
I have the DSP Z7 and the Monitor Audio RX8 AV 5.1 package.

Thanks in advance.



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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Musicraft » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:28 pm

Hi Peter

I've not heard Aventage RX-A3030 (not available in the UK yet) however the Aventage RX-A3020's quality of processing and it's power ultimately enables the RX-A3020 to offer a clear step up in performance over the DSP-Z7 with music and movie soundtracks. I hate to say it however as good as the DSP-Z7 is the DSP-Z7 sounds flat, loose and slow in comparison to the RX-A3020.

Is there any particular aspect of your systems performance which you are looking to improve on please?

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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Peter » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:14 pm

Hi Rick,

Many thanks for your response.
I am looking forward to improve the musical performance, else I am quite content with the movie capabilities of the DSP Z7, but any improvement on this front would be also more than welcomed. :D
I am wondering if a step up to the RX-A3020 would also require an upgrade of the speaker package to match?

Do you have any idea when you will be getting the RX-A3030 in the UK?


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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Musicraft » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:55 pm

Hi Peter

Thanks for your reply.

Your speakers are still good enough to accommodate the Aventage RX-A3020. So unless you're not satisfied with your speakers then I would recommend that you should carry on with them.

Are you using thr DSP-Z7 to bi amplify the Silver RX8's?

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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Peter » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:34 pm

Hi Rick,

Yes I have the RX8's bi-amped.

I am going to try several adjustments this coming weeks as follows:
1) Re-positioning of the front speakers.
2) Placing the front speakers on a concrete slab or chopping board. (I have wooden floor, and have the sub woofer on a concrete slab, and this has improved quality of the bass tremendously).
3) Tweaking the frequency equalization levels.

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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Musicraft » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:10 pm

Hi Peter

Thanks for your reply.

What EQ settings are you using please?

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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Peter » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:26 pm

Hi Rick,

The EQ settings are the default settings after running YPAO with Multi Measure - 3 Positions.
I have tested Natural, Flat, Front and Through, so I am now considering experimenting with the Manual setting.


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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Peter » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:38 pm

Hi Rick,

I have been experimenting with the EQ settings and have found a setting that has greatly improved two channel reproduction along my liking. :D
I shall continue to make some adjustments along these lines and hopefully find the optimum setting of my liking.

Many thanks.

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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Musicraft » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:49 pm

Hi Peter

What setting have you found please?

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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Peter » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:42 am

Hi Rick,

Thanks for your response!

I have altered the PEQ settings to Manual and on Band 5 and Band 6 added a couple more dBs.
The two channel musical reproduction sounds a lot more to my liking now, i.e. a tad brighter. :D

I did the alteration through the "Real Time -Receiver Manager for Z7 ver 1.00" software, which really is handy for changing the Z7 settings.
I downloaded this software from the Internet a while back.

For movie though, I use Yamaha's "Natural" settings.

I will be further experimenting to see if I can further enhance the already good sound quality, next thing is to try putting the Front speakers on granite blocks (I have floor boards).
Any further suggestions always welcomed! :)


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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Peter » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:01 pm

Hi Rick,

The Sub-woofer and the two front speakers are now each perched on a piece of granite slab (40x40cm , 3 cm high and weighing about 10 Kg a piece).
I have placed an equal size piece of carpet under the slab on the floor board.

The transformation is quite noticeable, with sharper middle and treble and the base is very tight and controlled (no boom at high volumes), however I have to turn the volume up a bit more than before. It definitely sounds much better especially at higher volumes.

I have read somewhere that there are special support boards (aurelex gamma boards???) that are even better for this kind of thing?

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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Musicraft » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:22 pm

Hi Peter

In my experience I would not recommend using any of the DSP-Z7's processing for listening to two channel stereo. For with it i found the DSP-Z7's two channel performance to be anemic whether used as a pre amplifier or as a complete integral amplifier. Pure Direct offers the cleanest and most natural two channel performance.

I guess you've already tried Pure Direct and have still wanted more from the DSP-Z7. I am glad that you're happier with the presentation of the amp. However I will say (with the greatest of respect) that a genuine uplift in performance is going to come by using higher quality of amplification which the Silver RX8's will thrive on. Either go for a new integrated AV amplifier or initially utilise the processing and pre amplification of the DSP-Z7 and add stereo or mono bloc power amplifiers to drive the RX8's.

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Re: The Yamaha A-3030/A3020

Postby Peter » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:46 am

Thanks Rick,

Power amp will be the next step, when financing is available.

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